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	<description>Doug Wolkon's ideas for succeeding through economic diversity</description>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://pluranomics.com/economic-detox/#comment-58</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also doug it is worth mentioning dependancy and vulnrability.  i know you are an advocate of community empowerment through local production. And what is so hard about mass globalization? It deteriorates local economies and reduces them to specialization. like you laways said- detroit. so why, even with the increasing demand for local sustainability, do we feel crippled to accomplish these powerful community efforts? simply it is in the best interest of those at the top of the pyramid, to keep those at the bottom dependant on the top- thus a system of control is upheld...with decenralization comes the collapse of the pyramid structure- the pyramid a symbol on the dollar bill....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also doug it is worth mentioning dependancy and vulnrability.  i know you are an advocate of community empowerment through local production. And what is so hard about mass globalization? It deteriorates local economies and reduces them to specialization. like you laways said- detroit. so why, even with the increasing demand for local sustainability, do we feel crippled to accomplish these powerful community efforts? simply it is in the best interest of those at the top of the pyramid, to keep those at the bottom dependant on the top- thus a system of control is upheld&#8230;with decenralization comes the collapse of the pyramid structure- the pyramid a symbol on the dollar bill&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://pluranomics.com/economic-detox/#comment-57</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love it...its true marx profecy..when hyper capitalist collapses...the value of local decentralized economies emerge...except or unless the centralized system elitists, namely the rothschilds, morgans, warbergs, rockefeler family banks like the fed, have a way of further funneling cash to themselves. if everyone is broke all over the world, WHERe DID ALL THE MONEY GO? Money isn&#039;t destroyed- its transfered, so where did it go if everywhere is  broke? The government and industry can artificially create supply and even demand to a certain extent thru advertising and artificial scarcity. economc education is crucial, and so is money creation education. how is money created? by whom for what reasons? what does the symbolism on the dollar represent? why the latin phrase that translates as &quot;new world order&quot;. What about the amero? the new currency that will replace the dollar to be used in mexico, canada and the u.s... nobodies talking about that, and it was already signed into law. and back to the topic of empowered communities producing locally....how will it happen when interest rates go through the roof? as central banks inherit loads of property...??? other than tha i love ur positive possibilites and i hope they come true. i only fear the mr. obama will send us in to an even worse situation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love it&#8230;its true marx profecy..when hyper capitalist collapses&#8230;the value of local decentralized economies emerge&#8230;except or unless the centralized system elitists, namely the rothschilds, morgans, warbergs, rockefeler family banks like the fed, have a way of further funneling cash to themselves. if everyone is broke all over the world, WHERe DID ALL THE MONEY GO? Money isn&#8217;t destroyed- its transfered, so where did it go if everywhere is  broke? The government and industry can artificially create supply and even demand to a certain extent thru advertising and artificial scarcity. economc education is crucial, and so is money creation education. how is money created? by whom for what reasons? what does the symbolism on the dollar represent? why the latin phrase that translates as &#8220;new world order&#8221;. What about the amero? the new currency that will replace the dollar to be used in mexico, canada and the u.s&#8230; nobodies talking about that, and it was already signed into law. and back to the topic of empowered communities producing locally&#8230;.how will it happen when interest rates go through the roof? as central banks inherit loads of property&#8230;??? other than tha i love ur positive possibilites and i hope they come true. i only fear the mr. obama will send us in to an even worse situation</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Wolkon</title>
		<link>http://pluranomics.com/economic-detox/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Wolkon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,
Every economic &quot;system&quot;, monetary or not, is built on trust for one another. The money is only there to conduct trade more easily (to try to make trade more easily divisible into quantitative parts instead of whole things). You see, people don&#039;t really understand why money even exists in the first place and it is that lack of economic education that we must address. That being said, the money is only as valuable as the trust (for trade purposes) that &quot;is&quot; or &quot;lurks&quot; behind it. 

Adam Smith dedicates the first section of the Wealth of Nations to metal coinage and exchange, including how and why such precious metals became currency. The main reasons 1.) scarce nature 2.) durability. Both reasons are in direct contrast to our &quot;paper&quot; dollar currency which can be 1.) supplied or printed on a moments notice or 2.) ripped or scorched in flames by chance. In other words, paper currencies are neither scarce nor durable. Taking it one step further, one might even call our present currency &quot;digital&quot;, since their is a fraction of actual &quot;printed&quot; paper dollars in relation to &quot;digital&quot; dollars which are in circulation in the economy; even though such circulating capital (i.e. cold cash) that we can all touch and feel is critical to the health of any economy as it keeps the goods and services flowing more timely (i.e. paying with cash is always faster than paying with credit). One of the most obvious challenges with our economy is that we desperately need more &quot;cold cash&quot; money in relation to &quot;digital&quot; money.  

On that note, I do not agree that a monetary society is rooted in corruption; although without the proper economic education any system is certainly unstable and prone to economic cycles. That being said, such unstable economic times are also times of great opportunity. For example, I would bet that Honolulu, through Dole and other export driven companies export most of the food that is produced on Honolulu (Oahu), while Honolulu imports the majority of the food they actually consume from far, far away places. Such an outrageously inefficient economic system of trade makes for great, great opportunity for Honolulu (see Dole being forced to sell underutilized land to more efficient users of such land at lower and lower prices). As national retailers like Dole become weaker and weaker, local distribution of the local produce will become more and more stable. 

The same goes for energy, as a land&#039;s renewable energy value is quantified by the natural air (i.e. wind), water (i.e. hydro) &amp; light (i.e. solar) production in relation to its land mass. As a result, Hawaii has the greatest natural resources for renewable energy production in the world, yet continues to import oil to make electricity, paying for it on a daily basis, instead of investing in it once for the long-term. That being said, because of its natural resources, Hawaii has the distinct opportunity, along with other tropical islands, to go 100% renewable in very little time (say 52 weeks). In other words, it is feasible for Hawaii to be 100% renewably powered in 2010 . The residents, through their taxes and savings, need to invest in the renewable energy more than anything else. That means no more same-old &quot;spending&quot; on imported cement bridges and roads; but rather strategic &quot;investing&quot; in windmills (wooden?) and solar panels! And once you get renewable, you go fishing.

Or how about water? I would bet that the 2nd largest import by weight and of trash to Hawaii is bottled water (after oil). Now that is stupid and inefficient economics. In any case, if Hawaii better filtered and marketed its own beautiful water for drinking purposes, it would dramatically reduce the price and waste, while increasing the nutrition of its drinking water. What I am trying to say is that such profit opportunities readily exist to greatly improve our economy. Then everyone could go fishing and surfing.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,<br />
Every economic &#8220;system&#8221;, monetary or not, is built on trust for one another. The money is only there to conduct trade more easily (to try to make trade more easily divisible into quantitative parts instead of whole things). You see, people don&#8217;t really understand why money even exists in the first place and it is that lack of economic education that we must address. That being said, the money is only as valuable as the trust (for trade purposes) that &#8220;is&#8221; or &#8220;lurks&#8221; behind it. </p>
<p>Adam Smith dedicates the first section of the Wealth of Nations to metal coinage and exchange, including how and why such precious metals became currency. The main reasons 1.) scarce nature 2.) durability. Both reasons are in direct contrast to our &#8220;paper&#8221; dollar currency which can be 1.) supplied or printed on a moments notice or 2.) ripped or scorched in flames by chance. In other words, paper currencies are neither scarce nor durable. Taking it one step further, one might even call our present currency &#8220;digital&#8221;, since their is a fraction of actual &#8220;printed&#8221; paper dollars in relation to &#8220;digital&#8221; dollars which are in circulation in the economy; even though such circulating capital (i.e. cold cash) that we can all touch and feel is critical to the health of any economy as it keeps the goods and services flowing more timely (i.e. paying with cash is always faster than paying with credit). One of the most obvious challenges with our economy is that we desperately need more &#8220;cold cash&#8221; money in relation to &#8220;digital&#8221; money.  </p>
<p>On that note, I do not agree that a monetary society is rooted in corruption; although without the proper economic education any system is certainly unstable and prone to economic cycles. That being said, such unstable economic times are also times of great opportunity. For example, I would bet that Honolulu, through Dole and other export driven companies export most of the food that is produced on Honolulu (Oahu), while Honolulu imports the majority of the food they actually consume from far, far away places. Such an outrageously inefficient economic system of trade makes for great, great opportunity for Honolulu (see Dole being forced to sell underutilized land to more efficient users of such land at lower and lower prices). As national retailers like Dole become weaker and weaker, local distribution of the local produce will become more and more stable. </p>
<p>The same goes for energy, as a land&#8217;s renewable energy value is quantified by the natural air (i.e. wind), water (i.e. hydro) &#038; light (i.e. solar) production in relation to its land mass. As a result, Hawaii has the greatest natural resources for renewable energy production in the world, yet continues to import oil to make electricity, paying for it on a daily basis, instead of investing in it once for the long-term. That being said, because of its natural resources, Hawaii has the distinct opportunity, along with other tropical islands, to go 100% renewable in very little time (say 52 weeks). In other words, it is feasible for Hawaii to be 100% renewably powered in 2010 . The residents, through their taxes and savings, need to invest in the renewable energy more than anything else. That means no more same-old &#8220;spending&#8221; on imported cement bridges and roads; but rather strategic &#8220;investing&#8221; in windmills (wooden?) and solar panels! And once you get renewable, you go fishing.</p>
<p>Or how about water? I would bet that the 2nd largest import by weight and of trash to Hawaii is bottled water (after oil). Now that is stupid and inefficient economics. In any case, if Hawaii better filtered and marketed its own beautiful water for drinking purposes, it would dramatically reduce the price and waste, while increasing the nutrition of its drinking water. What I am trying to say is that such profit opportunities readily exist to greatly improve our economy. Then everyone could go fishing and surfing.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://pluranomics.com/economic-detox/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the fed came out with a statement in 03&#039; stating that their monetary system of perpetual debt would reach its b raking point in the next ten years. a brilliant sociological group is advancing the venus project which is to reclaim value and transfer to a resource based society. the venus project illustrates our current system wether it be capitalist, soci.alist or communist as being virtually the same thing- monetary based societies.  a monetary society is rooted in corruption. for example; if you go to the doctor and he tells you your kidney needs to be removed, you can&#039;t be sure if it needs removal or if he&#039;s trying pay off a yacht. the only ethic in the monetary society is profit. this base has no room for trust. i pray your right doug. i pray we learn the value of sharing, like the hawaiians or the hopi indians, for them private property was unthinkable. if one has food, all has food. if the boats stop coming to hawaii, we will have mass starvation and chaos, and the reorganization of culture. its time to grow  a garden! honolulu will be anarchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fed came out with a statement in 03&#8242; stating that their monetary system of perpetual debt would reach its b raking point in the next ten years. a brilliant sociological group is advancing the venus project which is to reclaim value and transfer to a resource based society. the venus project illustrates our current system wether it be capitalist, soci.alist or communist as being virtually the same thing- monetary based societies.  a monetary society is rooted in corruption. for example; if you go to the doctor and he tells you your kidney needs to be removed, you can&#8217;t be sure if it needs removal or if he&#8217;s trying pay off a yacht. the only ethic in the monetary society is profit. this base has no room for trust. i pray your right doug. i pray we learn the value of sharing, like the hawaiians or the hopi indians, for them private property was unthinkable. if one has food, all has food. if the boats stop coming to hawaii, we will have mass starvation and chaos, and the reorganization of culture. its time to grow  a garden! honolulu will be anarchy.</p>
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